Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 4200)

The reason it's difficult to mask someone hammered vs someone stoned is the fact that someone hammered is typically more impaired than the stoned person. It's pretty hard to mask someone stoned to the point they can't function well either.

To put it another way, if someone has like 2-3 beers or whatever and they have a BAC of, say, 0.08 or so they are impaired but enough to mask it. If they drank the whole 12 pack and their BAC is at, say, 0.16 or whatever it becomes more difficult. Same with weed, though there isn't as precise a test to measure active THC levels as opposed to BAC.

While both drugs can have negative effects on a person, I struggle to see how an objective person can say that they are equal. Alcohol is a CNS depressant, and by its nature it makes it impairs motor function. It's why drunk driving is so dangerous compared to almost any other drug. It's hard to operate machinery when your own machinery doesn't operate well.

From a more anecdotal POV, alcohol tends to bring out the violence in people I almost never see with weed. I think most people agree with that. I mean, look at the Parry thread. "He stole a golf cart and punched a guy? What the fuck is his problem? Oh, he was drunk? That explains it."

On your general point (I think) I agree that both need to be regulated.

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 4129)

why are you anti union? this country needs some strong unions again. corporations have kept pay down for way too long. benefits are eroding.

Originally Posted by Pez (Post 4370)

Probably anecdotal more than anything. When I was a kid my dad lost two jobs because of closed shop union type stuff.

I guess I'm not really anti-union as much as I am against the labor union infrastructure that surrounds large unions like the AFL-CIO etc... union leaders make tons of cash while doing a questionable job representing their members. Members who are often those in most need of representation.

I agree with you that wage growth and benefit have become stagnant, but I am not that our current labor unions are doing much to fix that.

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 4409)

what labor unions?

there isn't much left. there are some really good strong unions out there. driving pay up and still bidding work at a very competitive wage so that the customer is still getting good pricing.

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 4417)

Are you the one that uses the shovel or are you one of the 3 that is just there to lean on the shovel?

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 4409)

what labor unions?

there isn't much left. there are some really good strong unions out there. driving pay up and still bidding work at a very competitive wage so that the customer is still getting good pricing.

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 4422)

i have never been in a union. but i have been around a lot of them and that is not how shit is done.

now government workers, absolutely are like that

Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 9055)

so yeah.

this dude is still a piece of shit