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smitty46953 04-25-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 117302)
A blown ACL in February means he could be back by November.

That, and I mean, rookies get hurt all the time. Deon Cain in 2018 and Malik Hooker in 2017 for most recent memory. If we draft a lesser talent and he blows his ACL in training camp, how much are we kicking ourselves for not just drafting the more talented guy if all they're gonna do is sit in the training room for 2019 anyway?

Most are saying that is pushing it and risking further injury. Just my opinion but I feel he will be on IR in 2019. I want a guy who will be on the field this year. Your comparing an existing injury to probability of another, not really apples to apples but understand your thoughts. Just not what I would do. :cool:

VeveJones007 04-25-2019 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 117304)
Most are saying that is pushing it and risking further injury. Just my opinion but I feel he will be on IR in 2019. I want a guy who will be on the field this year. Your comparing an existing injury to probability of another, not really apples to apples but understand your thoughts. Just not what I would do. :cool:

What position could they take that would be a sure-thing starter in 2019? Taking a top 5 talent who has to redshirt isn’t a big deal with the state of the roster.

smitty46953 04-25-2019 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 117310)
What position could they take that would be a sure-thing starter in 2019?

I think Abrams would start for us this year at safety.
Tillery in our DL rotation and a number of WR's who could be valuable.
If Cain is not able... (had to say it)


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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 117310)
Taking a top 5 talent who has to redshirt isn’t a big deal with the state of the roster.

True, just not what I would do.
:cool:

VeveJones007 sent you a PM

Luck4Reich 04-25-2019 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 117313)
If Cain is not able... (had to say it)

:D............:cool:

smitty46953 04-25-2019 01:11 PM

Wonder how Gruyock will do with Raiders selections? :eek:

Dam8610 04-25-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 117328)
Wonder how Gruyock will do with Raiders selections? :eek:

Probably bungle them. That organization is a dumpster fire.

Coltsalr 04-25-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 117303)
Tillery represents the safer pick at the moment IMO. I'd also rather chance Simmons falling to 34, as I think it's the more likely scenario. That said, pop the tape on, both are incredibly disruptive from the interior.

Would you potentially go Tillery/Simmons together 26/34?

Coltsalr 04-25-2019 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 117286)
Daniel Jeremiah has the Colts taking Simmons in his last mock.

So too does Kiper, Peter Schraeger, and Jason LaCanfora.

I'm thinking there's some fire next to this smoke.

VeveJones007 04-25-2019 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 117341)
So too does Kiper, Peter Schraeger, and Jason LaCanfora.

I'm thinking there's some fire next to this smoke.

But then Holder says he doesn't think Simmons will be on their board due to the domestic violence, so who knows.

Coltsalr 04-25-2019 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 117348)
But then Holder says he doesn't think Simmons will be on their board due to the domestic violence, so who knows.

Yeah, though after re-reading Holder, he does couch the statement a bit more than I had thought:

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But if you look at the Colts’ recent history, they’ve rarely acquired a player with even a hint of major character issues. They’ve taken some fliers on players like cornerback Jalen Collins, who has past drug-related suspensions. But they’ve not invested money or early draft picks in a player with much of a checkered past. I just don’t think we can ignore that history.

On Monday, I asked Ballard if he’s backed off this stance at all. He once said he might eventually loosen his standards once the Colts were on solid footing, which they appear to be. His answer was not vague.

The team’s approach to character risks “hasn’t changed,” Ballard said. “It won’t change. Y’all have heard me talk about this enough. The locker room’s important. You only go as far as your locker room wants to take you. You have to have enough talent in it. But you also have to have guys who are willing to work, willing to do the things it takes and willing to do it together. I think you have to stay consistent. The first time you think, ‘Oh, we’re this close. Let’s just go take a bite of the apple.’ And then it burns you. We’re pretty strict on (who) gets in.”

Is Simmons the exception to all this? Running back Joe Mixon faced a similar issue in the 2017 draft. The Colts took him off their draft board. I don’t see the Colts compromising their standards for Simmons.
Seems more speculation than hard knowledge.


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