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Puck 12-28-2021 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 217876)
Because that was the collective agreement between the NFL and the players association. It is as simple as that.

Why would the two sides agree to that? Because the only way to get healthy relatively young individuals who are notoriously self focused to do anything is to make it advantageous for them to do it. Left alone I can almost guarantee NFL players would have a significantly lower vaccination rate that the US population. That isn’t good for the NFL, that isn’t good for the players, and it isn’t good for society as a whole. So they have used a carrot and a stick to the best of their abilities to convince NFL players to get vaccinations. And they have been largely successful.

This is something that drives me crazy. People bitch and moan about any inconvenience they encounter in the name of protecting people. So we make concessions, try to offer incentives, or lessen the requirements to try to get max compliance and do the most good. Then the same people causing the issue nitpick any inconsistencies within the compromises they caused. So yeah, I agree it isn’t logical. But if the NFL didn’t make it an advantage to be vaccinated I’d almost guarantee the vaccination rate would be half (or less) of what it is. I’m at a loss for how that makes anything better for anyone other than those players selfish enough to refuse the vaccine. Again - those causing the need to compromise then bitch about the situation they caused.


I could be wrong but as of tomorrow there is no advantage to players to be vaccinated anymore. Both Vax and Unvax can come back in 5 days if asymptomatic. Thats what I read now, but I am sure there will be some more negotiations that will still favor the Vaxed

Oldcolt 12-28-2021 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 217879)
I could be wrong but as of tomorrow there is no advantage to players to be vaccinated anymore. Both Vax and Unvax can come back in 5 days if asymptomatic. Thats what I read now, but I am sure there will be some more negotiations that will still favor the Vaxed

I think you will be correct, as long as they are asymptomatic. I wonder if they will test everyone the same now. This whole thing just sucks.

rm1369 12-28-2021 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 217879)
I could be wrong but as of tomorrow there is no advantage to players to be vaccinated anymore. Both Vax and Unvax can come back in 5 days if asymptomatic. Thats what I read now, but I am sure there will be some more negotiations that will still favor the Vaxed

Any player unvaccinated at this point isn’t likely to give in and get it now anyway.

JAFF 12-28-2021 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 217857)
BS. I don't want Jackasses like Leonard spreading disinformation and discouraging others from being vaccinated. Like it or not they are role models. I work in healthcare in a role very much impacted by the pandemic and my everyday life has been impacted for going on two years because idiots won't get the poke or do the bare minimum to help reduce the spread. I dread every day going to work to deal with the shit show it has become. So fuck you and fuck all the morons who won't do a simple thing to help their community.

I just want to add, getting the vaccine, wearing a mask, protects yourself and ME! I’m in my 60s and I’m retiring from my 35 year career in public service, because I’m exhausted from trying to protect my family, because I work in a petrie dish, and people are to self centered to put on a mask.

What happened to “love thy neighbor”? What happened to “ do unto others”? Where did that go?

This nation led the fight that ended polio, small pox, and mumps/measles. 1 million Americans are going to die from covid, because people will believe a talking head on the internet, and not their own doctor.

Oh, and the only people in our family who have been sick with this have been my grandkids. They caught it at school, and were not old enough for the vaccine. Both are now vaccinated.

JAFF 12-28-2021 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 217867)
I get everything you are saying. I do.

So the CDC just lowered the isolation period to 5 days from 10. The NFL is suppose to jump on that as of tomorrow.

Here is the tricky part. It says only 5 days isolation and then 5 days of wearing a mask. So how will this work for the NFL? NBA? etc. Are the players going to wear a mask for 5 days after isolation OR are they just going to ignore that part and get away without wearing it so we have players on the field?

They will. They are worried about money, not peoples health.

Racehorse 12-28-2021 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 217868)
You can be pissed that the unvaccinated Colt players are losing a competitive advantage and at the same time think they are irresponsible towards their community for not being vaccinated. I agree with the first statement (I'm not sure how you can not think it is a competitive disadvantage not to be vaccinated) but am not willing to make that judgement on players like Leonard. I'm not sure why he didn't get vaccinated and it isn't any of my business as long as he or others are willing to take the consequences.

I have said it before and I will ay it again. A lot of blacks do not trust the medical advice because of the Tuskegee Experiment. I do not blame them.

Hoopsdoc 12-28-2021 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 217879)
I could be wrong but as of tomorrow there is no advantage to players to be vaccinated anymore. Both Vax and Unvax can come back in 5 days if asymptomatic. Thats what I read now, but I am sure there will be some more negotiations that will still favor the Vaxed

I don’t believe that this has been implemented yet, although everyone seems to think it will be shortly.

If I’m not mistaken, I believe the Colts could theoretically get everyone back for Sunday if this new policy is put in place, unless the policy only applies to those who test positive AFTER the new policy goes into effect.

If that’s the case, nothing changes and we’re still screwed for Sunday.

Plus, I still fully believe Wentz will test positive before this is all over.

Chromeburn 12-28-2021 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 217894)
I have said it before and I will ay it again. A lot of blacks do not trust the medical advice because of the Tuskegee Experiment. I do not blame them.

Monstrous. Bet it is never taught in schools either when discussing WW2.

Puck 12-28-2021 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 217895)
I don’t believe that this has been implemented yet, although everyone seems to think it will be shortly.

If I’m not mistaken, I believe the Colts could theoretically get everyone back for Sunday if this new policy is put in place, unless the policy only applies to those who test positive AFTER the new policy goes into effect.

If that’s the case, nothing changes and we’re still screwed for Sunday.

Plus, I still fully believe Wentz will test positive before this is all over.

There have been 106 and growing cases since Saturday. I will guess it will include everyone, otherwise they may have to move these games back a week

Colts And Orioles 12-28-2021 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 217894)



I have said it before, and I will say it again ...... a lot of Blacks do not trust the medical advice because of the Tuskegee Experiment. I do not blame them.





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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 217905)



Monstrous. I bet that it is never taught in schools either, when discussing WW-2.




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Fortunately, it is taught on the college level along with things like the Japanese Internment camps that were implemented in that same era.

Of course, there was the master of all education/teaching for those of us who were wise enough to listen to him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnBLZkcgyyQ

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