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IndyNorm 04-21-2023 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 263988)

Whichever QB the Colts decide to pick (or maybe not a QB?) they've done far more due diligence than us, so it's worth giving them a season or two on the field before deciding whether the pick they make is bad.

What's with the reasonable comment? Did you go back on your meds for a day?

Dam8610 04-21-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 264024)
You keep ripping on Lawrence, but there is not one NFL team who would take Stroud or your boy Mac Jones over him. There is not one QB in this draft anyone would take over Lawrence.

You keep defending Jones because he didn't have good coaching this past year, same could be said for Lawrence in his rookie year. Lawrence finally got a good HC and flourished in his 2nd year.

Time to bite the bullet dam.

Luck went in Lawrence's favor considerably last year, and yes, Pederson did well to create a lot of half field reads and easy concepts for Lawrence to execute. He still hasn't shown he can throw with anticipation or make a full field read, and he's been stuck at the same development since his freshman year in college. As I've said many times, the athleticism and arm strength will mask his deficiencies at times, but a smart talented defense will force him to stay in the pocket and make good reads and throws to beat them, and when they do that, he breaks down and his team loses.

I know who I'll be rooting for to succeed if Stroud is a Colt and Lawrence remains a Jaguar. Seems you and others here want Lawrence to succeed because of me, would you also want Stroud to fail if the Colts draft him?

IndyNorm 04-21-2023 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 264013)
But first reaction is... 18? Out of 100? Some of these guys got mid-90's and you got an 18? What is that about? OSU system?

Maybe he was hungover or stoned when he took the it? Living in B1G country I've seen my fair share of OSU games over the past 2 years, and based on what I've seen I would have thought he would have at least done halfway decent on the test.

Spike 04-21-2023 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 264027)
Luck went in Lawrence's favor considerably last year, and yes, Pederson did well to create a lot of half field reads and easy concepts for Lawrence to execute. He still hasn't shown he can throw with anticipation or make a full field read, and he's been stuck at the same development since his freshman year in college. As I've said many times, the athleticism and arm strength will mask his deficiencies at times, but a smart talented defense will force him to stay in the pocket and make good reads and throws to beat them, and when they do that, he breaks down and his team loses.

I know who I'll be rooting for to succeed if Stroud is a Colt and Lawrence remains a Jaguar. Seems you and others here want Lawrence to succeed because of me, would you also want Stroud to fail if the Colts draft him?

No, I'm not that guy. If the Colts get Stroud, I will be rooting for Stroud to succeed at a high level and beat Lawrence's ass. It's not about that. It's about admitting the truth and accepting the fact, nothing more.

Dam8610 04-21-2023 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 264026)
What's with the reasonable comment? Did you go back on your meds for a day?

We all root for laundry, do we not? If they choose Levis, Richardson, or whoever, I want them to succeed. Obviously I'd prefer Stroud, IMO he's the best of the bunch. But above all I want the Colts to win.

Dam8610 04-21-2023 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 264013)
But first reaction is... 18? Out of 100? Some of these guys got mid-90's and you got an 18? What is that about? OSU system?

Maybe he has test anxiety? Who knows, but that score does not match the tape, and in fact is the opposite of the tape.

Dam8610 04-21-2023 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 264033)
No, I'm not that guy. If the Colts get Stroud, I will be rooting for Stroud to succeed at a high level and beat Lawrence's ass. It's not about that. It's about admitting the truth and accepting the fact, nothing more.

I admit the truth and accept the fact that Lawrence can not throw with anticipation or make a full field read. May he never learn those skills.

IndyNorm 04-21-2023 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 264034)
We all root for laundry, do we not? If they choose Levis, Richardson, or whoever, I want them to succeed. Obviously I'd prefer Stroud, IMO he's the best of the bunch. But above all I want the Colts to win.

Another reasonable response. Looks like you finally took your pills today.

Edit: Never mind. Just saw your last 2 posts which popped up when I was typing this response.

Chromeburn 04-21-2023 03:00 PM

Lots of disinformation going on it seems. Particularly around Stroud. New S2 leak says he got an 18 on the test.

https://twitter.com/shanephallam/sta...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

Don’t know if I buy this though. Doesn’t seem to match the other scores. Also the creator of the S2 test went on the Pff podcast and said all the numbers being leaked are wrong.

ChaosTheory 04-21-2023 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 264028)
Maybe he was hungover or stoned when he took the it? Living in B1G country I've seen my fair share of OSU games over the past 2 years, and based on what I've seen I would have thought he would have at least done halfway decent on the test.

I know you're speculating/joking, but any explanation like that is obviously a bigger red flag that the shitty score itself. Of course I never heard about any character issues with the kid until this past week.

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 264035)
Maybe he has test anxiety? Who knows, but that score does not match the tape, and in fact is the opposite of the tape.

I tried to look up past and didn't find much, just some anecdotes. Even with those, what do we make of it? Like I read that Joe Burrow scored really high so this must have some merit to it, right? Then I read that Justin Fields scored as high as Burrow did and I think, "Oh, so this test doesn't mean shit."


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