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Indiana V2 03-10-2017 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 5642)
Here's the PFF blurb (if you hate PFF, by all means drive thru, no need to stay and bitch):



https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...rprise-upside/

Also, arguably, possibly the best pass rusher we've acquired in 5 years.

Don't like the part where he missed time due to injury. Too much of that isht gets us every year.

rcubed 03-10-2017 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 5665)
FA CB's are getting ridiculous money I'd roll with a draft pick here

agree. glad we did not pay what the jagoffs paid.

sherck 03-10-2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 5675)
In your opinion is this better? Or could it be why guys are chossing other teams if they were in negotiations with the Colts?

I like bonuses.

Simon has been injured. Great, give him a per game bonus that if he plays, he gets paid. Protects the team from "Bob Sanderism" but gives the player something to look forward to. We would have paid less to Arthur Jones over the past 2 years if this clause had been in his contract.

I also like "unlikely to be earned" bonuses. It made no financial difference to Erik Walden to get 42 tackles and 11 sacks in 2016 versus 42 tackles and 3 sacks in 2015. However, would Walden have tried harder earlier than his contract year if there had been money to chase? Will it motivate Simon? We will see.

I have a cousin who ownes a debt collection company. He has different pay systems for his workers ranging from 100% salary to 100% commission and different splits inbetween. Same job, different income models to his employees. Folks pick the one that brings them security.

However, he will tell you the ones that take less guarantee and more based on their own performance are his best employees.

Cheers,





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Puck 03-10-2017 12:37 PM

Is Bennie Logan still available?

Puck 03-10-2017 12:38 PM

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports there is a "very good chance" free agent NT Dontari Poe signs a one-year, prove-it deal.

njcoltfan 03-10-2017 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 5686)
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports there is a "very good chance" free agent NT Dontari Poe signs a one-year, prove-it deal.

does he say with who ??

Wyatt 03-10-2017 12:42 PM

@AdamSchefter
Prince Amukamara signs with Bears, per @JordanRaanan.

Puck 03-10-2017 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 5687)
does he say with who ??


no but he must be trying to get teams interested

sherck 03-10-2017 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 5685)
Is Bennie Logan still available?

He is.

He is not that effective, IMO.

Cheers.

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CanuckColt 03-10-2017 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 5687)
does he say with who ??

Apparently Atlanta...but there are injury concerns.

Wyatt 03-10-2017 12:48 PM

Hightower
 
Sounds like Hightower is down to NE, TN, and SF

per Ed Werder on Twitter

rcubed 03-10-2017 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5693)
Sounds like Hightower is down to NE, TN, and SF

per Ed Werder on Twitter

go west, young man

Puck 03-10-2017 12:52 PM

Odrick might be worth a look

sherck 03-10-2017 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5693)
Sounds like Hightower is down to NE, TN, and SF

per Ed Werder on Twitter

While Hightower is the prize, I would be great with Zach Brown, Gerald Hodges, or Kevin Minter.

Cheers,

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sherck 03-10-2017 01:13 PM

One more on John Simon.

According ro PFF, Simon had 24 QB pressures on only 133 pass rush snaps in 2016. Almost 20% is an excellent number.

Cheers,

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GoBigBlue88 03-10-2017 01:16 PM

Anyone else not enamored with Dontari Poe? On a one-year deal, sure, maybe. But is there anything special about his game?

I really think people mistake his being on the KC defense or his size as being a good NT.

sherck 03-10-2017 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 5712)
Anyone else not enamored with Dontari Poe? On a one-year deal, sure, maybe. But is there anything special about his game?

I really think people mistake his being on the KC defense or his size as being a good NT.

The injury leaves me cold about this deal even on a one year.

If we sign him, okay but I want a rookie selected as well. If we retain Perry, he can be depth for both 0-tech and 5-tech.

Cheers,

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Wyatt 03-10-2017 01:33 PM

Colts have released Patrick Robinson
 
@Colts now11 seconds ago
We have released cornerback Patrick Robinson: http://indcolts.co/JzEfju

smitty46953 03-10-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 5712)
Anyone else not enamored with Dontari Poe? On a one-year deal, sure, maybe. But is there anything special about his game?

I really think people mistake his being on the KC defense or his size as being a good NT.

I didn't think he was that great with KC ... Space eater at 6'3" 345# but kinda over rated IMHO... He had decent 2nd and 3rd years, but last two years not so much... :cool:

smitty46953 03-10-2017 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5714)
@Colts now11 seconds ago
We have released cornerback Patrick Robinson: http://indcolts.co/JzEfju

He was due a $1,000,000 roster bonus on March 14th , figured this was coming ... :cool:

Puck 03-10-2017 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5714)
@Colts now11 seconds ago
We have released cornerback Patrick Robinson: http://indcolts.co/JzEfju


Good

Wyatt 03-10-2017 01:39 PM

@HolderStephen 2m2 minutes ago
Something I heard from Colts headquarters this week: Ballard is all about setting standards. This is about the long term

@HolderStephen
Robinson was due a $1 million roster bonus on Tuesday. Decision had to be made now one way or the other as a result.

smitty46953 03-10-2017 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5714)
@Colts now11 seconds ago
We have released cornerback Patrick Robinson: http://indcolts.co/JzEfju

I can't imagine Art Jones isn't far behind with a $6,250,000 salary ... :cool:

sherck 03-10-2017 01:41 PM

CB in 1st or 2nd round is my guess.

Cheers,

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omahacolt 03-10-2017 01:51 PM

Not sure I understand some of these moves but oh well. Not a big loss

FatDT 03-10-2017 01:55 PM

Kind of surprised Robinson was released. He wasn't great, but unless a deal with a better CB is incoming, it seems kind of dumb to release him and hope the draft fixes everything.

Wyatt 03-10-2017 01:57 PM

keep chopping wood
 
Ballard seems to be chopping the fuck out of some Grigson wood atleast

Wyatt 03-10-2017 01:58 PM

@HolderStephen 1m1 minute ago
Whatever the deal, Chris Ballard is a gangsta with a capital G. Ruthless.

@HolderStephen 4m4 minutes ago
I wonder if there was any frustration on Colts' part last yr when Vontae Davis consistently played hurt while Robinson couldn't push thru.

@HolderStephen 4m4 minutes ago
No one has said that. That's just me talking. But the guy played seven games and rarely practiced. And they paid him $5 million.

Wyatt 03-10-2017 01:59 PM

cutting Robinson will save us 2.5 M in cap space also won't it Sherck

sherck 03-10-2017 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 5730)
Not sure I understand some of these moves but oh well. Not a big loss

Which ones?

Robinson was a sub-standard starter.

Allen was overpaid.

Doyle rocks.

Simon appears to be a solid signing at a reasonable price.

Mingo? Yeah, I don't see the point of that.


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OneVoice 03-10-2017 02:01 PM

So call me crazy, but the Jax D looks pretty good on paper with Boye/Ramsey duo, added Calais Campbell to an already young, up and coming squad.

Houston freed up cap space and might land Romo.

Titans getting better.

AFC South is getting better ...except the Colts that is.

Wyatt 03-10-2017 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneVoice (Post 5736)
So call me crazy, but the Jax D looks pretty good on paper with Boye/Ramsey duo, added Calais Campbell to an already young, up and coming squad.

Houston freed up cap space and might land Romo.

Titans getting better.

AFC South is getting better ...except the Colts that is.

to the contrary, I think Ballard is not going to accept mediocrity any longer....Pagano needs to pay attention

Brylok 03-10-2017 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 5732)
Ballard seems to be chopping the fuck out of some Grigson wood atleast

If an Art Jones falls in the forest and there's nobody around to hear it, does it make a sound?

Dam8610 03-10-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 5697)
While Hightower is the prize, I would be great with Zach Brown, Gerald Hodges, or Kevin Minter.

Cheers,

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Or Lawrence Timmons. No one is talking about him at all. Seems like a perfect under the radar type of pickup.

DeAndre Levy is another name that just hit the market that might fit that bill, though he's not the caliber of Timmons.

rcubed 03-10-2017 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 5735)
Which ones?

Robinson was a sub-standard starter.

Allen was overpaid.

Doyle rocks.

Simon appears to be a solid signing at a reasonable price.

Mingo? Yeah, I don't see the point of that.


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eh, back up and special teams. not terrible but nothing special as well.

GoBigBlue88 03-10-2017 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 5715)
I didn't think he was that great with KC ... Space eater at 6'3" 345# but kinda over rated IMHO... He had decent 2nd and 3rd years, but last two years not so much... :cool:

I tend to agree, Smitty. People see a big dude who was a high draft pick and think he's good for some reason.

Then again the Colts have more or less had the worst luck/history ever with DTs/NTs, so when Corey Simon is your high-water mark ... well, beggars can't be choosers.

Dam8610 03-10-2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneVoice (Post 5736)
So call me crazy, but the Jax D looks pretty good on paper with Boye/Ramsey duo, added Calais Campbell to an already young, up and coming squad.

Houston freed up cap space and might land Romo.

Titans getting better.

AFC South is getting better ...except the Colts that is.

The Jaguars are perennially in contention for the offseason championship. What has it gotten them in the past decade?

Romo is old, and injury prone, I hope the Texans gamble their future on him.

See above re: the Jaguars for the Titans.

Dam8610 03-10-2017 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 5738)
If an Art Jones falls in the forest and there's nobody around to hear it, does it make a sound?

The sound of roughly $5 million falling into the Colts cap reserves.

Puck 03-10-2017 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 5739)
Or Lawrence Timmons. No one is talking about him at all. Seems like a perfect under the radar type of pickup.

DeAndre Levy is another name that just hit the market that might fit that bill, though he's not the caliber of Timmons.


Timmons yes Levy no IMO

rcubed 03-10-2017 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 5742)
The Jaguars are perennially in contention for the offseason championship. What has it gotten them in the past decade?

Romo is old, and injury prone, I hope the Texans gamble their future on him.

See above re: the Jaguars for the Titans.

I liked having the texicans saddled with a crappy QB and his large contract (fuck you very much CLE).

If they do land romo, he only has 1-2 years left even if he doesnt get hurt, which he will. We arent poised to really contend this year so if he stays healthy and they do well, then whatever. I am not to worried it.


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