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Brylok 02-21-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 224237)
The longer this goes on the more this seems true to me, ie Irsay is pushing this. I hope he cools down, let’s Ballard/Reich decide and then holds them responsible. It’s is counter productive, in my opinion, to fire Ballard. Do that and he’ll be hied as a GM within days by another very happy team. Just look at the poaching going on from this team. Tells you all you need to know about what the professionals think of this regime.

Ballard definitely won't be fired. I just hope the "Golden Boy" image has been seen through. Frank put his own neck in the noose by wanting Wentz. They'll hang together.

CletusPyle 02-21-2022 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 224241)
VERY VERY VERY, did I say Very hypothetical, if you could get Desaun Watson for NEXT years 1 and 4, would you ??

Even if Watson is not criminally charged and settles with his accusers, if he comes to Indy the NFL will suspend him for who knows how long...of course, if he goes to Tampa or Pittsburgh the NFL will probably let him play!

Watson is a top talent, the Colts would likely win a championship if he came here for 4 or 5 seasons...but he also has some serious issues that puts doubts on if he can avoid repeating his bad behavior. He will be suspended when he returns...so the first year you might not even have his services!

No, I would not pursue him.....

Hoopsdoc 02-21-2022 07:08 PM

Holder and Keefer did a one percent better podcast today they seem to think the decision has already been made to move on from Wentz, it’s just a matter of when it actually takes place.

This was, in their words, after conversations with people around the organization over the past week. And they believe it’s coming directly from Irsay.

I’m about 99 percent sure now that, regardless of what else happens, Wentz will not be a Colt next season.

Discflinger 02-21-2022 07:14 PM

I just wonder if it was the shot or something else that pissed him off royally. The last two weeks go without saying.

Hoopsdoc 02-21-2022 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 224254)
I just wonder if it was the shot or something else that pissed him off royally. The last two weeks go without saying.

I think the shot is part of it but it’s more than that. For instance, i don’t get that vibe from Jim regarding Leonard or Kelly.

Jim’s been pissed since Jacksonville and it seems like Wentz is the guy he’s pissed at.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-21-2022 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 224255)
I think the shot is part of it but it’s more than that. For instance, i don’t get that vibe from Jim regarding Leonard or Kelly.

Jim’s been pissed since Jacksonville and it seems like Wentz is the guy he’s pissed at.


I haven't listened to the podcast yet but Keefer has already indicated that Irsay was not happy that Wentz went through the season unvaccinated.

I would say the big difference between Leonard or Kelly vs. Wentz is that the team could weather missing Leonard or Kelly a bit better than losing the starting QB.

I mean Brent Hundley was the de facto backup QB for the majority of the season. As bad as Wentz has played at times, there is a significant dropoff from Wentz to Hundley. And before you say Ehlinger, the Colts could have thrown in Ehlinger to the Oakland game and decided a Carson Wentz with little to no practice was a better option than Ehlinger.

I also wonder if there was any truth to the rumors about certain players intentionally contracting COVID-19 to avoid having to test during the post season. Carson Wentz was one of the last Colts who contracted COVID-19. I could see Irsay being pissed off about that if Carson intentionally caught COVID. That is all rumor and speculation, however.

JAFF 02-21-2022 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 224258)
I haven't listened to the podcast yet but Keefer has already indicated that Irsay was not happy that Wentz went through the season unvaccinated.

I would say the big difference between Leonard or Kelly vs. Wentz is that the team could weather missing Leonard or Kelly a bit better than losing the starting QB.

I mean Brent Hundley was the de facto backup QB for the majority of the season. As bad as Wentz has played at times, there is a significant dropoff from Wentz to Hundley. And before you say Ehlinger, the Colts could have thrown in Ehlinger to the Oakland game and decided a Carson Wentz with little to no practice was a better option than Ehlinger.

I also wonder if there was any truth to the rumors about certain players intentionally contracting COVID-19 to avoid having to test during the post season. Carson Wentz was one of the last Colts who contracted COVID-19. I could see Irsay being pissed off about that if Carson intentionally caught COVID. That is all rumor and speculation, however.

Anyone who caught covid on purpose should have a psych evaluation

Oldcolt 02-21-2022 09:51 PM

If Irsay is making these decisions we are fucked. He has already proved he is shit as a GM Let the professionals run the team. If they decide we are better off without Wentz great. At least it would be a football decision, not a decision made by an embarrassed pissed off old man

apballin 02-21-2022 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 224254)
I just wonder if it was the shot or something else that pissed him off royally. The last two weeks go without saying.

Not only were you embarrassed by the last 2 weeks it was in view for the world to watch us look like jackasses on hard knocks

Wentz wasted one of the best single season performances I’ve ever witnessed by Taylor

Just my hypothetical…

Irsay didnt want Wentz he got off on the wrong foot by refusing the vax, then not retuning to the game week 1, his stupid turnovers costed us huge games early and the last 2 weeks were Curtis Painter like Irsay had high hopes of playoffs atleast I believe and the last 2 games sealed Wentz fate

apballin 02-21-2022 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 224261)
If Irsay is making these decisions we are fucked. He has already proved he is shit as a GM Let the professionals run the team. If they decide we are better off without Wentz great. At least it would be a football decision, not a decision made by an embarrassed pissed off old man

No Reich let his emotions get involved clearly Wentz was a shitty trade based on nothing but emotions because he played the same way last year for Philly


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