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omahacolt 03-08-2017 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 5040)
I hope he drops a 4th and 1 pass that loses them a critical game.

why?

i hope he plays great they lose every game. but that fits you.

maybe someday you will get to con your way into some fat girls panties and you won't be such a little douchebag.

Brylok 03-08-2017 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 5041)
the hatred for allen is something i will never understand. teammates loved him, coaches loved him, and he was great in the community.

fans hate him because he got hurt.

it is unbelievable the vitriol this dude has received.

It really makes you think...

FatDT 03-08-2017 10:32 PM

Colts fans hate injured players. It took people years to stop bitching about Reitz, and even now when he retires you have people saying things like "Good riddance, he sucks".

It didn't help that he got overpaid. What was he supposed to do, say no?

Brylok 03-08-2017 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 5045)
Colts fans hate injured players. It took people years to stop bitching about Reitz, and even now when he retires you have people saying things like "Good riddance, he sucks".

It didn't help that he got overpaid. What was he supposed to do, say no?

Salary complaints always amaze me. Ownership, player, and agent come to an agreement for salary. Fans complain about the player. Who in the world wouldn't take a raise, let alone an agreed upon/arbitrated raise?

Dam8610 03-08-2017 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 5042)
why?

i hope he plays great they lose every game. but that fits you.

maybe someday you will get to con your way into some fat girls panties and you won't be such a little douchebag.

Allen was one of your man crushes, so you'll defend him to the death. I don't know why you randomly pick horrible players and defend them to the death while ripping on better players for no apparent reason. I'm guessing it's the same reason you have this odd psychological compulsion to project your sad life onto me.

Dam8610 03-08-2017 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 5046)
Salary complaints always amaze me. Ownership, player, and agent come to an agreement for salary. Fans complain about the player. Who in the world wouldn't take a raise, let alone an agreed upon/arbitrated raise?

The complaint is about management being smart and managing the limited resource of salary cap dollars wisely. I would never blame a player for taking more money, but a GM who overpays a bunch of players is going to end up with a flawed roster.

indycolts2 03-08-2017 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 5024)
yeah but fleener is a bitch

white bitch.......get it right, you ain't fooling anyone!

Spike 03-08-2017 11:38 PM

It's not like Allen was the 2nd coming of Dallas Clark or John Mackey. He was a mediocre TE after his rookie year. Nothing fucking special about him. Ballard made a good decision in trading him and giving the Colts some additional cap money while picking up an another 4th round pick. I didn't hate Allen, he just wasn't worth the money he was being paid.

VeveJones007 03-08-2017 11:47 PM

Allen is absolutely replaceable at a much lower price tag. He's an above average TE getting paid like a good TE. Part of building a winning roster is having guys who are worth what they are paid and Allen was not.

The Colts will probably get about the same production out of their TEs next year, add a nice chunk of cap space in 2017-2019, and move up about 55 picks in the process. This is a good deal. If you don't think so, you're too high on Allen.

cq.noble 03-08-2017 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 5009)
Really?

Teams make decisions all the time to move on from high priced talent because they have lower priced talent behind them that they believe will fill the void left.

Trading Allen created a void as a receiving option on the 2017 Colts. I am going to judge that trade based on if the lower priced talent on the team fills the void or not.

If the offense don't not skip a beat in 2017, then good trade. If it struggles because no one steps up as a 4th trusted pass catching option, then bad trade.

What is hard to understand about that?

Cheers,

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 5055)
The complaint is about management being smart and managing the limited resource of salary cap dollars wisely. I would never blame a player for taking more money, but a GM who overpays a bunch of players is going to end up with a flawed roster.


Right but that turns into hatred for the player when he's perceived to underperform, which makes no sense. I'm not attached to the guy and I don't think this was a bad trade, I've thought about it and Allen and Doyle duplicate each other with Allen being the better athlete and Doyle being more consistent, but to hate a guy because he played poorly when by all accounts he wasn't slacking, he didn't get paid and quit working he didn't do anything wrong other than not play well. There are plenty of guys who don't play well that the coaches constantly go back to that don't receive the kind of hate that Allen does.

Logically it doesn't make sense to hate him if he didn't sleep with your girlfriend.


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